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=== Meeting minutes ===
 
=== Meeting minutes ===
* the need of a salix-dev mailing list: private or not ?
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'''the need of a salix-dev mailing list: private or not ?'''
There is no need as the ML does not have so many people, and there is nothing to hide in Salix...
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* what are you working on ?
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* There is no need as the ML does not have so many people, and there is nothing to hide in Salix...
gapan : project leader, working on almost everything : e.g. packages, promoting Salix OS, creation of special Salix edition for a Greek magazine, standard Salix xfce ISO, care taker of Salix repository
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christian : maintaining packages, no work on lxde at the moment
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'''what are you working on ?'''
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* gapan : project leader, working on almost everything : e.g. packages, promoting Salix OS, creation of special Salix edition for a Greek magazine, standard Salix xfce ISO, care taker of Salix repository
  
fredg : working on packages.salixos.org -> http://packages.salixos.org/
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* christian : maintaining packages, no work on lxde at the moment
  
djemos : salix kde edition and salix kde live (beta 1 is out), some packages for current, and testing new kde, translation of the start up guide in Greek
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* fredg : working on packages.salixos.org -> http://packages.salixos.org/
  
kerd + ax : Salix fluxbox edition
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* djemos : salix kde edition and salix kde live (beta 1 is out), some packages for current, and testing new kde, translation of the start up guide in Greek
  
akuna : live cd, live tools, server,
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* kerd + ax : Salix fluxbox edition
  
jrd : live cd, packages, maintaining sali.enialis.net mirror. translations, helping on live tools
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* akuna : live cd, live tools, server,
  
pwatk : not much at the moment
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* jrd : live cd, packages, maintaining sali.enialis.net mirror. translations, helping on live tools
  
tsuren : docs
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* pwatk : not much at the moment
  
shador : Currently, nothing actively, but some ideas (some still very vague and unsure about):
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* tsuren : docs
  
Shifting the branding of akuna's live tools from simplyNux to Salix, so that others from Salix will be able to work on them freely in the future.
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* shador : Currently, nothing actively, but some ideas (some still very vague and unsure about):
Recommended for packagers to use VM for packaging.
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 +
 
 +
'''how can we work better with the slackware team ? how to best get in touch with them when there's a upstream problem?'''
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* We contact them as needed.
 +
 
 +
'''our strategy for the future (what do we want to achieve? by which means?)'''
 +
 
 +
*polishing things up. i.e. good doc, more functionality on the livetools
 +
*Improving existing tools we have in Salix
 +
 
 +
''' when do we drop support for older Salix versions?'''
 +
*When Slackware does. But, packages for older versions will get less support.
 +
*When support is out, we make an announcement on the Salix OS front page
 +
 
 +
'''elections'''
 +
*To elect the project leader for Salix. This is to foster the team spirit, and to prevent the continuation of the project without a hiccup.
 +
*for the new election, after all the livecds are out and before the new upcoming release
 +
*akuna will take care of the process
 +
 
 +
 
 +
 
 +
'''Future project ideas and recommendations'''
 +
* Shifting the branding of akuna's live tools from simplyNux to Salix, so that others from Salix will be able to work on them freely in the future.
 +
* Recommended for packagers to use VM for packaging.
  
Future project ideas:
 
 
Shador:
 
Shador:
- (U)EFI support (grub2-efi, efibootmgr and if necessary an efi kernel) :  of interest
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1) (U)EFI support (grub2-efi, efibootmgr and if necessary an efi kernel) :  of interest
- a grub2 (+ syslinux chainloading) based easy-to-use solution to install multiple live cds to one usb (primarily Salix, but possibly others for which it could be less straigtforward) : of interest
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2) a grub2 (+ syslinux chainloading) based easy-to-use solution to install multiple live cds to one usb (primarily Salix, but possibly others for which it could be 3) less straigtforward) : of interest
- improvements to SLKBUILD (early arch (usable in source array then), : yes, it would be a good idea
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3) improvements to SLKBUILD (early arch (usable in source array then), : yes, it would be a good idea
- multi packages?,  : no interest by the team
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4) multi packages?,  : no interest by the team
- build time deps?, : no interest
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5) build time deps?, : no interest
- improvements to metagen.sh (-> speed) : optional, would be of interest
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6) improvements to metagen.sh (-> speed) : optional, would be of interest
- simplify/ speed-up repository management (upgrade, addition, upload...), while keeping control with the admin : no interest
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7) simplify/ speed-up repository management (upgrade, addition, upload...), while keeping control with the admin : no interest
  
 
JRD
 
JRD
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* how can we work better with the slackware team ? how to best get in touch with them when there's a upstream problem?
 
We contact them as needed.
 
 
* our strategy for the future (what do we want to achieve? by which means?)
 
polishing things up => good doc, more functionality on the livetools
 
Better documentation
 
Improving existing tools we have in Salix
 
 
* when do we drop support for older Salix versions?
 
When Slackware does. But, packages for older versions will get less support.
 
When support is out, we make an announcement on the Salix OS front page
 
 
* elections
 
To elect the project leader for Salix. This is to foster the team spirit, and to prevent the continuation of the project without a hiccup.
 
for the new election, after all the livecds are out and before the new upcoming release
 
  
  
The following topics were postponed for the next meeting.
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'''The following topics were postponed for the next meeting.'''
  
 
  * upgrade package in stable: when ? which one can bypass the rules ?
 
  * upgrade package in stable: when ? which one can bypass the rules ?

Revision as of 21:57, 29 January 2012

1st Salix Online Meeting (29 Jan 2012)

What do you want to discuss ?

* the need of a salix-dev mailing list: private or not ?
* what are you working on ?
* upgrade package in stable: when ? which one can bypass the rules ?
* posibility to migrate from svn to a DVCS like git or mercurial or bazaar ?
   * http://www.pocock.com.au/migrating-a-sourceforge-project-from-subversion-to-git
   * http://www.infoq.com/articles/dvcs-guide
   * http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Git
   * http://alx.github.com/gitbook/index.html
   * http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/ForeignBranches/Subversion?action=show&redirect=BzrForeignBranches%2FSubversion#id50
   * http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/BzrMigration
* how can we work better with the slackware team ? how to best get in touch with them when there's a upstream problem?
* our strategy for the future (what do we want to achieve? by which means?)
* when do we drop support for older Salix versions?
* elections
* How to attract new contributors? For documentation, flavors and translation it seems to work fine. But for packages more would be useful. Mentoring? Announcement?
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Meeting minutes

the need of a salix-dev mailing list: private or not ?

  • There is no need as the ML does not have so many people, and there is nothing to hide in Salix...

what are you working on ?

  • gapan : project leader, working on almost everything : e.g. packages, promoting Salix OS, creation of special Salix edition for a Greek magazine, standard Salix xfce ISO, care taker of Salix repository
  • christian : maintaining packages, no work on lxde at the moment
  • djemos : salix kde edition and salix kde live (beta 1 is out), some packages for current, and testing new kde, translation of the start up guide in Greek
  • kerd + ax : Salix fluxbox edition
  • akuna : live cd, live tools, server,
  • jrd : live cd, packages, maintaining sali.enialis.net mirror. translations, helping on live tools
  • pwatk : not much at the moment
  • tsuren : docs
  • shador : Currently, nothing actively, but some ideas (some still very vague and unsure about):


how can we work better with the slackware team ? how to best get in touch with them when there's a upstream problem?

  • We contact them as needed.

our strategy for the future (what do we want to achieve? by which means?)

  • polishing things up. i.e. good doc, more functionality on the livetools
  • Improving existing tools we have in Salix

when do we drop support for older Salix versions?

  • When Slackware does. But, packages for older versions will get less support.
  • When support is out, we make an announcement on the Salix OS front page

elections

  • To elect the project leader for Salix. This is to foster the team spirit, and to prevent the continuation of the project without a hiccup.
  • for the new election, after all the livecds are out and before the new upcoming release
  • akuna will take care of the process


Future project ideas and recommendations

  • Shifting the branding of akuna's live tools from simplyNux to Salix, so that others from Salix will be able to work on them freely in the future.
  • Recommended for packagers to use VM for packaging.

Shador: 1) (U)EFI support (grub2-efi, efibootmgr and if necessary an efi kernel) : of interest 2) a grub2 (+ syslinux chainloading) based easy-to-use solution to install multiple live cds to one usb (primarily Salix, but possibly others for which it could be 3) less straigtforward) : of interest 3) improvements to SLKBUILD (early arch (usable in source array then), : yes, it would be a good idea 4) multi packages?,  : no interest by the team 5) build time deps?, : no interest 6) improvements to metagen.sh (-> speed) : optional, would be of interest 7) simplify/ speed-up repository management (upgrade, addition, upload...), while keeping control with the admin : no interest

JRD

1) a theme manager: A real Theme manager. Something to help anyone to install a theme (GTK, icon, font, xfwm4, kwin, ...). Now, it's really complicated to install some for a non-technical guy, and it's the clue to success : if possible, but may be very difficult to do

2) A Salix upgrade manager. A soft to check if a new version is available and help to migrate if wanted : not supported in general

3) LiveClone and LiveInstaller improvements. LiveClone is not finished right now. LiveInstaller should simplify more partitionning, help having a crypt setup and the like.. : of interest

guth: 1) cryptsetup/luks/... support (full disk encryption), it's more and more "common" : supported and patches welcome.

2) having some way to provide quick update/patchs for standard packages on security issues : Salix update notifier does this already

3) think about arm release (more and more tablets/phone/laptops) : depends on what are available for compiling packages, and available resources



The following topics were postponed for the next meeting.

* upgrade package in stable: when ? which one can bypass the rules ?
* How to attract new contributors? For documentation, flavors and translation it seems to work fine. But for packages more would be useful. Mentoring? Announcement?
* posibility to migrate from svn to a DVCS like git or mercurial or bazaar ?