I've been doing a bit of DE hopping over the last year, since I'm not completely happy with Gnome 3. I'm not too against it either. Unlike some people, I don't feel betrayed or think it's impossible to do work in it. It's just that it's not my first choice. For the first 9 years of my Linux life, I used Red Hat, then Fedora, with some experimentation in Slackware and other distros. Something has drawn me back to Slackware, and it's now my primary OS, with some additions and modifications from the kind people who do Gnome SlackBuild people and you all at Salix. One of the things I miss about Fedora is the Cinnamon option, and I haven't been able to build Cinnamon myself. I see that you've just released Mate packages, and the word in the press is that the latest Mate won't break any Gnome 3 packages. Now, I love GSB, but they replaced a key package or two, and I suspect that has lead to some minor instability on my system. So, I wonder if anyone can tell me whether Mate will double back on the GTK2/GTK3/glibc switch that GSB did and break anything else or whether it's safe to add to my already jumbled mix. My thanks to you for all your work, especially on Sourcery and gslapt, and my thanks for any answers I receive.